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Philadelphia tomato pie vs Utica-style tomato pie

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FieldPhiladelphia tomato pieUtica-style tomato pie
OriginUnited States, PhiladelphiaUnited States, Utica
Formrectangular, trayrectangular, tray
Thicknessmediumthick
Rim / edgeNo distinct rim; even rectangular edgesMinimal distinct rim; a uniformly thick rectangular slab
Base textureSoft, bread-like base suited to being eaten at room temperatureDense, bread-like, golden-brown and slightly crisp on the bottom, tender-chewy inside
CrumbModerately open, bread-likeModerately dense, focaccia-like crumb
Hydration60–68% (typically 64%)60–68% (typically 64%)
Fermentationroom temperature long fermentationroom temperature long fermentation
ShapingPressed into an oiled rectangular trayPressed by hand into an oiled rectangular sheet pan
FlourBread flour (commonly used)Bread flour (commonly used)
PrefermentNo documented preferment tradition (direct dough)No documented preferment tradition (direct dough)
Topping loadmoderatelight
Bake temperature220–250 °C (typically 235 °C)220–245 °C (typically 230 °C)
Bake time15–20 min (typically 17.5 min)15–20 min (typically 16.7 min)
OvenDomestic fan (convection) ovenDomestic fan (convection) oven, Commercial deck oven
Flavouracidic, savoury, sweetsavoury, acidic, rich
Texturebread like, softdense, bread like, tender
Difficultybeginnerbeginner
Domestic suitabilityexcellentexcellent
ServingServed at room temperature, sold by the square from bakeriesCut into squares and served at room temperature, often as a snack or alongside other food rather than a full hot meal

Key similarities

  • Form
  • Hydration
  • Fermentation
  • Flour
  • Preferment
  • Difficulty
  • Domestic suitability

Key differences

  • Origin
  • Thickness
  • Rim / edge
  • Base texture
  • Crumb
  • Shaping
  • Topping load
  • Bake temperature
  • Bake time
  • Oven
  • Flavour
  • Texture
  • Serving