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Grandma pizza vs New York-style pizza

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FieldGrandma pizzaNew York-style pizza
OriginUnited States, Long IslandUnited States, New York City
Formrectangular, pan, thinround, large format
Thicknessthinthin
Rim / edgeNo distinct rim; thin and flat to the pan's edgeModerate, slightly raised rim, less pronounced than Neapolitan
Base textureCrisp, fried bottom from the oiled pan, thinner than Sicilian-American or DetroitThin, foldable, with a firmer crumb than Neapolitan
CrumbThin, minimally open, less airy than Sicilian-American or DetroitModerately open, chewier and less irregular than Neapolitan
Hydration58–65% (typically 62%)60–65% (typically 62%)
Fermentationsame day direct, room temperature long fermentationcold fermentation
ShapingPressed thin directly into an oiled pan with minimal proofing timeHand-tossed or hand-stretched to a large, thin round
FlourBread flour (commonly used)Bread flour (traditional)
PrefermentDirect dough method (common modern approach)Direct dough method (common modern approach)
Topping loadmoderatemoderate
Bake temperature230–260 °C (typically 245 °C)290–320 °C (typically 300 °C)
Bake time12–18 min (typically 15 min)5–8 min (typically 6.5 min)
OvenDomestic fan (convection) oven, Commercial deck ovenCommercial deck oven, Domestic fan (convection) oven, Gas-fired pizza oven
Flavoursavoury, richsavoury, rich
Texturecrisp, densechewy, foldable, crisp
Difficultybeginnerintermediate
Domestic suitabilityexcellentgood
ServingCut into squares and served from the panSold by the slice or whole pie, folded lengthwise to eat ('the New York fold')

Key similarities

  • Thickness
  • Preferment
  • Topping load
  • Flavour

Key differences

  • Origin
  • Form
  • Rim / edge
  • Base texture
  • Crumb
  • Hydration
  • Fermentation
  • Shaping
  • Flour
  • Bake temperature
  • Bake time
  • Oven
  • Texture
  • Difficulty
  • Domestic suitability
  • Serving